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JERSEY BEAT #59, March 1997 --------------------------- By Jim Testa It's been twenty years since the birth of the Misffts, and they still walk among us. Fifteen years after the group officially broke up, they're still arguably the most popular, influential, imitated, bootlegged, and important rock band to crawl from the swamps of New Jersey and take on the world. Which is totally amazing, considering how goofy the whole concept was to begin with - a bunch of guys with big muscles and floppy forelocks welding thrash-rock riffarama to high-concept lyrics abolit zombies, Martians, and B-movie mon- sters. And yet, to this day, you can't go to a punk show anywhere in the country without spotting a few kids who weren't even born when the band broke up proudly wearing their Misfits t-shirts. The Misfits aren't just a rock and roll band anymore, they're icons, as American and punk rock as pizza and skateboards. The past year has been a virtual onslaught of Misfitsmania - a hugely popular box set of the band's old material, a tribute album featuring some of punk's biggest names, and soon, a new album by the reborn Misfits on Geffen Records. For years, Glen Danzig claimed ownership of the Misfits name and back catalog, even while pursuing his career in Samhain and Danzig. But Jerry Only and Doyle never stopped being Misifts, showing up at trade shows and record conventions in full regalia, and flghting a legal battle to reclaim the mantle. That struggle finally ended in 1995, and a new incarnation of The Misfits was born: Jerry Only and his brother Doyle on bass and guitar, Dr. Chud on drums, and Michael Graves on lead vocals. Same demonic sneers, same big muscles, some crazy haircuts. A new album, American Psycho, is scheduled to be released on Geffen in May. Armed with a well-sharpened wooden stake, a supply of silver bullets, and our favorite crucifix, we tracked Jerry down and asked about the band that refuses to die. Q: The original Misfits broke up on Halloween night, 1983, and from what I understand, this incarnation of the band made its debut on Halloween, 1995. Jerry: Yeah. We did a special guest appearance with the guys from Type 0 Negative. Q: I guess the first thing we need to discuss is how you got to use the name Misfits again and what exactly happened between you guys and Glen Danzig. Jerry: When the band split up, I wasn't too concerned with what was happening with the band, and it slipped away on me. And Caroline Records started putting out a whole bunch of stuff with Glen. And when we started looking into it, those records were shitty re-mixes and, for instance, on the Legacy Of Brutality reissue that came it, wasn't even me playing bass. So I went through the roof. This is absurd. And at the time, we were working for our father in a machine shop, working on guitar designs and so on. And it just took so long to take legal action. We tried to talk it out first, and that didn't work. And it just got worse and worse and escalated. Caroline just kept putting out more and more releases, and we had nothing to say about it, about the songs or the artistic design. If you look at the packaging of the early Caroline releases, it's real cheesy and if you open it up, it's a picture of Glen. So we finally threatened to take it to court, and it never actually got to court but we came to an agreement. The box set that came out was a result of us getting in there and having our say. And what happened was we let go of all the old publishing, even though we had helped write it. You'll never read that anywhere, but we don't care. We weren't in it for songwriting credits, we were in it to write great songs. So we gave up the publishing to get the name free and clear and be able to go ahead. The idea behind it was that Doyle and I had great ideas and we didn't want to limit ourselves to a Static Age, Waik Among Us, and an Earth A.D. album. We didn't consider that the extent of our career. Our career was to keep moving forward and continue getting better as we went. So we wrote this new album and Geffen came along and the opportunity came at just the right time for us to put out what I consider to be the best Misfit album of all. And that's where we stand now. Q: When you guys first got together, where did the whole monster idea come from? Jerry: When we first got together, I was 17 and Doyle was 12. What you don't know is that originally, we were very artsy. We were in the avant-garde. Glen was really into Alan Vega and Suicide, and he was writing keyboard stuff along those lines. Now here's some news. Caroline is having the Static Age album coming out on As own and there's a song on there that hasn't been played in 20 years. We just heard the tapes and it came out really good. So you'll be able to hear a little of that. But yeah, when we started, we were playing audition nights at CBGB for free and Glen was playing keyboards and we were like a lounge act. The monster thing happened when we started playing Max's Kansas City. The first poster we did was from something like Teenagers From Mars. It had a picture of a skeleton that had been shot with a raygun or something on it. We used that as our first Max's poster. And then on our second Max's poster, we stumbled across the Crimon Ghost. And once we used that, God, it caught on so quick that everything we did after that just got more and more monster-oriented. And that's how we got into the image we have today. And what's beautiful is that working with Geffen, we're able to utilize all the old Universal monsters. So it's good to be able to use Boris Karloff and Bela Lugosi and Frankenstein and use all those images with our name over the top. It's alvays been a dream of mine. Q: Has it ever surprised you how enduringly popular the Misfits songs have been? I can never remember a time in the last 15 years when kids didn't like the Misfits, no matter what else they were listening to. Jerry: You have to remember the framework. I was born in 1959, which was pretty much the beginning of rock and roll, with Buddy Holly and that stuff. And that's what I grew up listening to. And the Misfits was based on that kind of music. If you listen to it, it's a lot of Fifties stuff. But we had a Nineties sound back then and it's still the same now. It's just basic American home-fries rock and roll chord progressions, and you just love 'em. You're just so damn used to them that you know them as soon as you hear them. That's why I think we're more a rock and roll band than a punk band. A lot of friends were telling me a year ago that the whole punk era was coming back and we ought to jump on it, and I said no. The last thing 1 want was to come out and be just another early punk, band to come back for a revival. This is about much more. We stand for much more than that, I think, thar just being categorized. And I think the music shows that. You've got "American Nightmare," which is almost a rockabilly song, and then 'London Dungeon,' which is slow and eerie, and then things like "Queen Wasp" and "Earth A.D.," which is like speed-metal bible material. And the other thing is the science fiction element. The biggest movies of the year are always science fiction movies, whether it's The Terminator or Alien or Independence Day or whatever. Because you're using your imagination, which enables you to make anything possible. That's why science fiction is always so popularity, and that's the kind elements we have going. That's our topic material. Q: So the new stuff is like that too? Jerry: Even more so! Lyrically, we don't have any swear words on the album, which I think is big, And we don't have any guitar leads. It's just flat-out balis to the walls rock and roll. And the lyrics are fantastic. And the production is the best we've ever had. We had six months to put it together, and that's about six months more than I ever had to do an album before. We did this panel with a six person panel. The four of us, and a guy from Geffen, and Daniel Rey, who produced it, and every week we would update our lyrics, if someone didn't like a line that person would go home and work on ft. We wrote 35 songs and tracked 20. There has to be a thousand hours of songwrfting time invested in this project. In twenty years, we never put this much time and energy and attention into writing songs. Daniel was a good choice for producer. He's got a real Fifties feel for the material like I do. Like he's working light now wfth Ronnie Spector and Joey Ramone on a new Ronnie Spector album. And the other good thing is that he's a calm individual, where we're a bunch of maniacs. He's like the buffer zone between everybody. We weren't used to doing things with so much going on. We did Walk Among Us for $3,000 in three days. It's a totaity different atmo- sphere. So it was good having him as producer. And I really liked it. I think that creatively you have a much better chance of getting where you want to go if everybody has a say, rather than having one guy be a dictator and tell everybody else what to do. My one fear with signing to a label like Geffen is that I didn't want to get involved with some big money-making corporation that was going to drain all the gusto out of my band. But they've been terrific. The deal with Geffen is that we do everything and they just put it out. So we designed the artwork and we recorded everything prefty much the way we wanted to. We did an 8 hour photo shoot yesterday and we just kept playing the tape of the album over and over, I just kept wanting to hear it again. For me, it's like when the box set came out. When that came out, I cried. I really did. I tell everybody that for the last ten, twelve years, we had really great stuff on tape, but Caroline wasn't getting great stuff to put out, they were getting garbage. Like Earth A.D. I know if I could go into a studio and take my time and re-mix Earth A.D., it could be a great album, because we had great stuff on tape that nobody ever heard. I mean, now, I give it a B, but when Earth A.D. first came out, I gave it an F. It was a fucking failure as an album. The idea at the time was that Earth A.D. was gonna be the Misfits meet Motorhead. Because the Misfits during the Walk Among Us era were doing more doo wop material. But then we heard Motorhead and they were doing all this radical, fast shit, and we wanted to take their speedmetal sound and put it to our Fifties-type progressions. But we broke up before that came out and Glen really put that out. And he slept while we did. He was sleeping when we recorded most of it and he didn't know what was on those tapes. We could've done ten times better with Earth A.D. than what came out. Q: Have you heard the tribute compilation (Violent World: A Tribute To The Misfits on Caro- line)? Jerry: Yeah, I like the first song and the last song The rest I wasn't crazy about, but all those bands have their own interpretations The last song on the compilation is "Return Of The Fly" (by Farside) and that's the shit. Even Doyle liked it and Doyle don't like nothing. But he heard it and he's like, this sounds like it was the original and then we covered it. (laughs) And we're doing an Iggy song, "I Got A Right," for a compilation that's going to support Lifebeat. We used to do it live and Glen always hated doing it, but now we have an arrangement and Doyle has a guitar part for it, so we're recording it. It's cool. I just hope Iggy likes it when he hears it. As far as the compilation, since Glen has 100 per cent of the publishing, they didn't have to talk to us about it, and I would have liked to have had some input. Type O Negative wanted to do a song, Anthrax wanted to do a track, Life Of Agony wanted to do one, all the guys we were hanging with wanted to throw something on there and we didn't have any say. And the artwork! We could have come up with some really good artwork. What they put together was political artwork. It completely misses the point, "Violent World" isn't about kids throwing rocks. Q: What are the plans for the new album? Jerry: We're going to Europe first. Then we invested in a mobile home so we can do America. We think with the mobile home we can just do good shows on weekends and concentrate on that, getting the word out and playing good shows in major cities. That way we can get a lifting workout going during the week and play good shows on the weekends. Our tour is supposed to start in June and go all the way through to October. All Misfits graphics courtesy of Mark Kennedy's Misfits Home Page: http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/-msk4m/home.html